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The Death of Osama bin Laden

What a villianous sort that Bin Laden appeared to be at the end:

2.40pm The US is ensuring bin Laden's body is handled in accordance with Islamic tradition, an official has told AP.

2.27pm The White House has posted the full text of President Obama's speech on its website.

2.33pm The Philadelphia Inquirer gives an account of how the CIA tracked bin Laden to a mansion protected by 12-18 foot (3.6-5.5m) walls topped by barbed wire.

2.31pm It's being reported a woman used by bin Laden as a human shield was also killed. One helicopter used in the raid reportedly had mechanical failure and was destroyed.

2.29pm Egyptian-born doctor and surgeon Ayman al-Zawahri is al-Qaeda's second-in-command expected to succeed Osama bin Laden, Reuters reports.

2.26pm There are reports a crowd of a thousand people have gathered at Ground Zero in New York.

Walls topped in barb wire, a woman used as a human shield, a successor named, the war of terror not over!

Honestly, what bullshit. The man is no doubt dead (and perhaps has been for years), but the story of his death being given out tonight is nothing but propaganda served up to the world to ensure that a man the US made decades ago died in the way they thought most useful.

I call shenanigans.



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May. 2nd, 2011 05:44 am (UTC)
An interesting shennanigan - though I'm glad it eventuated in an Obama administration and not a Bush/Palin/Trump one.
May. 2nd, 2011 07:59 am (UTC)
personally, i don't truly think there is that much of a difference between the two administrations, so much the same, really.
May. 2nd, 2011 01:04 pm (UTC)
Apart from the rampant American focus, I've just been happier with the Obama admin's restraint in starting any new wars and the leaing towards social services at home.

From our GLORIOUS! Australian perspective (and I say this without irony) there's a choice of lesser evils and a more moderate philosophy in charge within our seond-most-powerful ally at the moment.

There's this idea (conspiracy?) that the world is run by a shadowy conglomerate of figures, and I'm just happy enough that they've awarded the "Finding Bin Laden" badge to the more socially and scientifically aware of the two. They could have easily given it to Bush in his closing era.
May. 2nd, 2011 03:22 pm (UTC)
i'm perhaps to cynical about this, but i don't really think that there's a huge difference between the two. a different take on health, perhaps, but obama's administration is really just the continuation of the bush administration, which was the continuation of the clinton administration, which was the continuation of the bush administration... a lot of the same people just swirl around the postions out there, with an overlapping and interchangability that stops any real change, and ends up creating a sense of sameness.

i mean, personally, i don't buy the shadowy conglomerate. the running of the world is a small, incestuous group of people like any other job or scene, and people come up into it through various streams and rights, like others. the world is run by ideals i don't believe in, for the most part, and the result is just a long march into disillusion and distrust.
May. 2nd, 2011 05:58 am (UTC)
I won't buy into your paranoid fantasies, but the structure of Al Qaeda makes OBL's death irrelevant anyway.

They exist as interdependent cells - there's no overall leader (that's kind of a fabrication of the US.) That's why we've had so many No. 2 Al Qaeda leaders killed over the years - they're all No. 2s (so to speak.)
May. 2nd, 2011 08:00 am (UTC)
yeah, i agree. his death doesn't really change anything.

however, he has now been apparently buried at sea. what do you say to that?
May. 2nd, 2011 08:31 am (UTC)
They might as well bury him at sea. Can you think of any standard of proof that would satisfy you that it was the real body?
May. 2nd, 2011 08:52 am (UTC)
sure. images similar to what they did to saddam hussein, for example.

they will argue (and have already done so) that burying him at sea is a way to stop him being a martyr, but i think it is a miscalculation to do so for a country that is already celebrating his death in the streets. the US government has to be conscious of what people will say when no body is presented, nor any video of what has happened.

personally, my complaint is simply the story of him using a woman as a human shield and his compount being topped by razor wire--i think these pieces of reportage are nothing but creating a certain image of him that the american public can lap up.
May. 2nd, 2011 09:08 am (UTC)
I don't really remember the details of Saddam Hussein. I know there was a video of his execution circulated, but I chose not to watch it. For the details of the raid on Osama, I entirely agree that can and probably will be fabrication, large or small.

But if we take it as read that it was him, and he died in the attack (whether or not he wanted to be taken alive; presumably not), burial at sea seems like a non-sinister option to me.
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