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Spoilt! (Movie Tuesday)


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May. 21st, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
thats pretty funny!
May. 21st, 2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
you know, i've told so many people what rosebud is. people keep asking me--it's like one in ten people make it to the end of the film.
May. 21st, 2007 11:59 pm (UTC)
there is another answer to what rosebud is... apparently. heard that one?
May. 22nd, 2007 12:03 am (UTC)
May. 22nd, 2007 12:07 am (UTC)
when I studied Citizen Kane back at art school we were all dutifully informed that rosebud actually referred to the dudes wife's clitoris. Couldn't see it myself, but I nodded knowingly with all of the other students.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:11 am (UTC)
haha. was there any reasoning behind this statement? i mean, the sled has the word 'rosebud' on it, and rosebud is the name given to his loss of innocence and childhood and so forth and all of that is, y'know, totally supported by the film...
May. 22nd, 2007 12:15 am (UTC)
there was reasoning but I can't remember it. It may have been a direct reference to the real guy the film character was based on. it was one of those things that cool film students were supposed to know, like a trade secret.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:31 am (UTC)
how strange. suppose it could be by that logic.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:40 am (UTC)
It was meant to be a practical joke by Orson Welles on Randolph Hearts (who's lover Marion Davies had the afore mentioned clitoris.) So, not only is the main character based on Hearst, but the story concerns a reporter trying to find his lover's clitoris (and, who knows, Joseph Cotten may have been luckier in real life.)

The report I read was that it was the screen writer (Herman J. Mankiewicz) who "inserted" it in the script, based on popular gossip at the time.

Here's what the IMDB trivia section says:

William Randolph Hearst was infuriated by this movie, obviously based on his life. According to an essay written for the New York Review of Books by Gore Vidal "Rosebud" was Hearst's name for long-time mistress Marion Davies' clitoris. But screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz insisted that he took the name from a bicycle he owned as a child.

So it probably all comes down to Gore Vidal being a bitch.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:41 am (UTC)
Hearst - sorry about that.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
yeah, nah, i got you. i knew all the hearst stuff, but not the clit part. funny.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
Yah, I just eyeballed that shirt. Hope it hasn't sold out by the next $10 sale.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:45 am (UTC)
i went it. my size was nearly gone, so, y'know, i figured i'd go it.
May. 22nd, 2007 12:52 am (UTC)
I love this, hilarious!
May. 22nd, 2007 01:27 am (UTC)
So am I a curmudgeon or just out of date for not wanting some of those things spoilt?
May. 22nd, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
you're all those things :)
May. 22nd, 2007 02:00 am (UTC)
Sad but true.
May. 22nd, 2007 05:42 am (UTC)
My fiance just pointed out to me. I'm sooooo getting it. Though, who is DIL?
May. 22nd, 2007 06:54 am (UTC)
i believe it's a reference to neil jordan's THE CRYING GAME...
May. 24th, 2007 08:42 am (UTC)
*slaps brainbox*

... I should have known.

And I just ordered my t-shirt.
May. 22nd, 2007 06:32 am (UTC)

Just wow. :)
May. 22nd, 2007 10:41 am (UTC)
What about "Louis Cypher: what are you people, fuckin' stupid?"

(I do like Angelheart, though.)
May. 22nd, 2007 10:43 am (UTC)
Toss-socks - that was me!
May. 22nd, 2007 10:53 am (UTC)
toss socks?

no one remembers ANGELHEART, man. with good reason :)
May. 22nd, 2007 11:03 am (UTC)
'cos it violated their memories of The Cosby Show? :)

Blood! Chickens! SEX!
May. 22nd, 2007 11:08 am (UTC)
cause it was shit, man :)

bout the only freaky and interesting thing in that whole film was robert deniro's nails.
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