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Discussing Jesus' Cock.

"The Circumcision became increasingly popular as a subject for painting in the Renaissance and yet Christ is never shown to have a circumcised penis... However, may it not also be because to show him circumcised would have been to show him Jewish (and, indeed, in this particular like the other infidel, Muslim)?"

There really isn't enough discussion about the importance of Jesus' cock, is there?

(the quote is from Richard Dyer's WHITE)

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nick_kaufmann
Aug. 9th, 2005 02:29 am (UTC)
and yet Christ is never shown to have a circumcised penis...

When do they ever show his penis?
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 02:32 am (UTC)
no idea. i assumed it was in renassiance painting, since that was where the discussion was contained, but neither of those topics are anything i know a lot about. i just found the idea that jesus' cock was a discussion point funny.
nick_kaufmann
Aug. 9th, 2005 02:35 am (UTC)
Well, there is that famous Renaissance painting Jesus Getting a Handjob from Peter, but that's the only one I can think of.
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 02:39 am (UTC)
well, who doesn't know that painting? my grandmother has it on her wall. she likes to tell us it's what really happened at the last supper.
norda
Aug. 9th, 2005 03:14 am (UTC)
I have to say that, of all the religious philosophy points that my literary collaborator and I discussed over coffee arabica this past Sunday, Jesus' cock did not raise its head.
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC)
see all the things you missed touching on.

(nice play on words,too)
norda
Aug. 9th, 2005 10:15 am (UTC)
I try my humble best.
tanuja
Aug. 9th, 2005 08:59 am (UTC)
That's an interesting thought. Jesus was brought up as a Jewish child, by loving Jewish parents (okay, one parent and one surrogate, since God backed off during his formative years), so in all likelihood would have been circumcised. In fact, were he not to have been circumcised, it would have been such a huge bit of information, the new testament would have mentioned it at least once.

While expecting Mini-Mr-Tanuja (MMT) we were asked if he was a boy, would we want him circumcised. Now, as neither Mr Tanuja nor I are Jewish or Muslim, the obvious answer was an emphatic no.

We then got into a variety of discussions with a variety of US friends, who were also not Jewish or Muslim (since their answer to the "did you circumcise your son would have been obvious) to discover that it's still common for Americans to circumcise for the following reasons:

1) It's more hygienic
2) They don't want their child to grow up looking different to Daddy (TMI, I really don't need to know the state of a friend's penis)
3) The other boys in the locker room will laugh at him if he's different to the majority

Now, being a girl, I don't know precisely how these works, but Mr Tanuja has assured me that:

- hygiene isn't an issue, it's up to parents to teach their kids how to stay clean
- he can remember ever seeing his father's penis (again that's a thought I'm going to have to use a drill to get out of my head)
- if any teenage boy in a locker room comments on another's boy's penis, he's likely to get his head kicked in.

Anyway, getting back to the point, I wonder at what point fashions in Europe changed from circumcision is a good thing to only Jewish and Muslim boys are circumcised. Also, I wonder why the US continued with the practice. I feel that it would help the world heal a little faster if we took time to discuss the state of God's son's cock a little more.
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 10:28 am (UTC)
i have heard the hygene reason before and, oddly, the same as daddy bit. (used for both sides of the argument, that.) i really couldn't say either was a good enough point, except...

well

non-circumsized penis' always looked kinda ugly to me. what is it that they said in seinfeld? 'no face'.
tanuja
Aug. 9th, 2005 11:51 am (UTC)
I'll take your word on that, seeing as all the men that I've slept with have been uncircumcised.
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 11:59 am (UTC)
well, obviously, in the name of science and all that is good int he world and stuff like that, you need to go back out there!

or ask for photos.
tanuja
Aug. 9th, 2005 12:58 pm (UTC)
So my choices are:
- do more research by sleeping with other men
- do more research by asking men for photos of their penis

The first option sends me straight to the divorce courts, don't pass go, don't collect £200, and as I'm still in love with Mr Tanuja (even after 11 years, okay you can stop hurling right about now) this option is firmly rejected.

This leaves me with a mission to go out there asking random men if they're circumcised, if so, can I have a photo.

And when I get arrested, I'll point the finger firmly in your direction stating: "Some bloke, who I've never met, made me do it via thought control on the internet". I suppose it's better than "Jesus made me do it", although in the context of this discussion, it may be the better defence.
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 01:03 pm (UTC)
well, you could always say, "some guy on the net claiming to be jesus made me do this."

:)
tanuja
Aug. 9th, 2005 11:09 am (UTC)
bugger! That "- he can remember ever seeing his father's penis (again that's a thought I'm going to have to use a drill to get out of my head)", please replace "can" with "can't".
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 11:31 am (UTC)
yeah, i figured.
(Anonymous)
Aug. 9th, 2005 11:13 am (UTC)
jesus's whatever
well i have seen a depiction of Jesus with breasts on a golden plater in finland issuing milk from his bossom, maybe he is just a bearded hermaphodite, i have heard that one in a couple of thousand of ovum self fertilize resulting in a embryo, it's a far cry form messiah but hey what the heck
(Anonymous)
Aug. 9th, 2005 11:46 am (UTC)
the covenant of circumcision seems to be a surrogate form of sacrifice, abraham being asked to sacrifice his first born son a tradition of the worshippers of Baal at the final moment is asked to replace the sacrifice of his son with his forskin, pretty strange i guess, however i have read that the rite of circumcision was to immitate the first mense of the female as a way of usurping its power?? It may be just a mythopoetic transition of the patriarchal flavour.
benpeek
Aug. 9th, 2005 12:01 pm (UTC)
i dunno. i really don't know anything about this stuff, though i do find it deeply funny.
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