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Observation #9011.

I don't really see the point for the Dolphin Safe labels on Tuna cans. I mean, I'm eating the Tuna, right?


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Feb. 20th, 2005 07:17 pm (UTC)
Do you know WHY there are dolphin safe lables?

The tuna fishing industry traditioanlly used fishing methods that resulted in massive deaths of dolphins.

It was a way for consumers to have choice... to choose cannaries that support fishing crews that use dolphin safe techniques.

This campain was relativly successfully, you can find dolphin safe tuna in most supermarkets.

Keep supporting envonmentally friendly industries... Lables like this are one way to do so.

Feb. 20th, 2005 09:40 pm (UTC)
sure, i know why they're there. but, don't you think it's just a bit of a contradiction to sit there with the dolphin safe can of tuna? i mean, i've no qualms about chowing down on the butchered tuna, but if it might have been killed with some dolphins at the same time, i'm apparently meant to feel differently about this?

maybe there should be human safe tuna.
Feb. 20th, 2005 07:47 pm (UTC)
Do you REALLY want me to get into this?

Because the dolphin-safe tuna label is utter crap. Utter, utter crap.

Feb. 20th, 2005 09:41 pm (UTC)
okay. so why is it crap?
Feb. 21st, 2005 03:59 pm (UTC)
It's a total lie.

Go ahead and eat the tuna fish though.

Feb. 21st, 2005 01:03 pm (UTC)
I'd def like to hear more about why dolphin-safe tuna is utter crap (presuambly the concept is still good, but current practise makes it a farce??) but i can think of three reason why the concept of dolphin safe tuna is a good one

  1. While the net fishing is a very efficient way of collecting tuna, it also collects a whole heap of other marine life(including dolphins), which dies and is then discarded as waste. At least we eat the tuna.
  2. Are dolphin populations at more risk than tuna populations, in terms of stock depletion? I actually have no idea, but this would be another reason why, ecologically, it could be argued it is more ok to kill tuna than a dolphin
  3. A dolphin has a lot more personality than a Tuna fish :-)
Feb. 21st, 2005 03:58 pm (UTC)
The concept was all very nice and thoughtful and kindly to dolphins. But.

The label is utterly meaningless.

"Dolphin-safe tuna," (which for the most part is yellowfin tuna; high grade bluefin tuna is too expensive to be sold in cans and usually only appears in sushi restaurants) is STILL CAUGHT IN PURSE SEINE NETS, which STILL KILLS DOLPHINS. The process of catching yellowfin tuna almost by necessity kills dolphins; fishing boats can only locate yellowfin tuna by looking for spinner dolphins (and a few other dolphin species as well).

What ticks me off about the label isn't the concept, it's that consumers dutifully purchase "Dolphin-Safe" tuna as if they are doing a good deed and somehow protecting dolphins, when chances are excellent that dolphins died in the catch that provided this tuna. It's incredibly deceptive marketing.

In terms of the ecological effect? Very arguable. More dolphins have been slaughtered in tuna fisheries than whales were during intense whaling efforts in the early 20th century; whale populations, with one exception, have still not recovered. On the other hand, there were considerably more dolphins than whales to begin with, and dolphins have higher birth rates than whales. So it's arguable.

Tuna are apex predators, and, no question, the stock of all tuna species -- and fish species in general -- are depleting rapidly, thanks to intensified fishing efforts and poor enforcement of quotas and fish moratoriums. The ecological effect? Who knows. The deep sea was never studied that well before the removal of tuna, so I think you could definitely argue the effect.

My issue really isn't so much that dolphin are being killed; it's that consumers are being lied too, and that the tuna industry continues to evade, successfully, the Marine Mammal Protection Act.

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