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Arthur Miller.

I thought Arthur Miller was already dead. You know, I just can't keep up with these American literary icons. Next someone will be telling me Norman Mailer is still important. Though I tell you what, I didn't know that Miller was married to Marilyn Monroe at one stage.

I just trivialised his whole body of work right there, didn't I?


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Feb. 12th, 2005 03:37 am (UTC)
I thought Arthur Miller was already dead.

Hey, so did I.
Feb. 12th, 2005 04:47 am (UTC)
well, least i'm not the only one. damn americans. they should have a register for their icons.

the dead/not dead register.
Feb. 12th, 2005 04:06 am (UTC)
> I just trivialised his whole body of work right there, didn't I?

While you sleep tonight, his Ghost will be pooping ghost poop in your mouth.
Feb. 12th, 2005 04:48 am (UTC)
well, fuck 'im then. i never did like the crucible.
Feb. 12th, 2005 05:07 am (UTC)
Feb. 12th, 2005 10:26 am (UTC)
I wouldn't go so far as to say what Morman Mailer writes *right now* is important, but in his past he produced some fine works of American post-war fiction. I would say his best works are "The Naked and the Dead", "The Armies of the Night", "The Executioners Song", "The Deer Park", and "Marilyn". I think he was a great writer. He must be 80+ by now.

You didn't know Arthur Miller was married to Marilyn? Oh yeh, they were besotted with each other. Arthur Miller also wrote her last film, "The Misfits".
Feb. 12th, 2005 12:49 pm (UTC)
honestly, miller has never been of great interest to me, though i did like monroe's final film, THE MISFITS. guess i just never picked up on the link. happens. i'm not too fussed.

i've liked some of mailer. he has had his moments. i just felt like hassle two american literary icons in one post ;)
Feb. 12th, 2005 01:01 pm (UTC)
I knew he was alive and had married Marilyn Monroe and even though some :-p may not like The Crucible and Death of a Salesman, the man stood up to Joseph McCarthy at a time when it was not prudent to do so. So methinks he deserves his iconic status.
Feb. 13th, 2005 03:24 am (UTC)
oh, i'm sure he deserves his status in the states. over here, however, he's not of much interest to me, which was kind of the point of the post. (that and to make fun of every news article that said, and he was married to marilyn monroe.)
Feb. 14th, 2005 12:01 am (UTC)
He's not of much interest here, either, I don't think. It's unfortunate. (Not him dying at 89 but people not knowing what he did/what he wrote.)
Feb. 12th, 2005 10:23 pm (UTC)
So this one time back in college I'm sitting with some English majors, and we're all sad 'cause we haven't gotten any, so to speak, in years, and you know, outside Lord Byron, we can't immediately think of any writers who had amazing and astounding sex lives, and then somebody pipes up with:

"Arthur Miller."

The immediate response to this is that Arthur Miller is one of the most depressing authors around and this isn't a good moment to bring him up into the conversation.

"Yeah, but -- he married MARILYN MONROE."

Silence. Quick drinks all around. Realization that we, as potential writers, had hope.

On the other hand, I am frankly blanking on when I last read anything by Norman Mailer.
Feb. 13th, 2005 03:26 am (UTC)
the last thing i saw of mailer's was a retrospective of his body of work. i kind of took it as a sign that he wouldn't be putting out a whole lot more, but you can never be sure.
Feb. 13th, 2005 07:03 am (UTC)
the last thing I saw was the retrospective too, called "The Time of Our Time" or some-such-I've always wanted to read that one where he puts himself in Jesus's eyes and mind. Heard good things. Heard bad things. I'd like to ch-check it out, to quote the Beastie Boys, :-)
Feb. 13th, 2005 11:37 am (UTC)
what's the jesus book called?
Feb. 13th, 2005 12:00 pm (UTC)
I believe it's called "The Gospel According to the Sun". Not sure how he frames it.
Feb. 13th, 2005 07:44 pm (UTC)
I didn't even see the retrospective.

I'm thinking that if you are looking for someone who can tell you absolutely nothing about what Mailer is doing, you have found that someone in me.

Why you would be looking for that someone, though, is a major question.

Feb. 13th, 2005 10:58 pm (UTC)
i dunno. i think a lot of people here don't know what mailer is doing.
Feb. 13th, 2005 10:24 pm (UTC)
I like Norman Mailer. The Executioners Song is terrific.
Feb. 13th, 2005 10:57 pm (UTC)
oh, sure. he wrote some fine stuff. i was just funnin'.
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