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Carradine Notes

For some reason, I have become fascinated by the Carradine death. Obviously, it means some kind of story is kicking round, and whether or not it is in bad taste, or too early, or whatever, I'll just ignore. I'll write it and see how it goes after I've finished it, which is the way these things usually are.

Here are some of the conflicting yet fascinating notes I'm collecting:

* "Carradine's manager Chick Binder points to the fact the actor was found with his hands tied behind his back, and a mysterious footprint on his hotel bed, as evidence of foul play.

"We definitely don't believe it was a suicide," he said. "David was a great guy and a great client and a great friend."

Link.

* "And so there is a suspicion that if there was some foul play, that may be the first area they should look."

The claim echoed conspiracy theories that martial arts expert Bruce Lee was killed by Chinese Triads in 1973.

Secret societies in kung fu date back centuries and were originally formed to protect humble people from corrupt Chinese overlords. But many have since turned to crime.

Link.

* Carradine’s third ex-wife, Gail Jensen, dropped more personal bombshells in an interview with Patricia Towle this weekend, saying “David was pretty strange. He would like to get tied up. He would tie himself up and I would walk in and see him and say ‘Oh my God, David, you got to be kidding me — and I would (turn around and) walk out. I would leave him to his own devices.”

Jensen added, “He liked to be tied up. And he could tie himself up … He spent days planning a different feature. He would go to a hardware store and buy the stuff.”

We spoke with Jensen, who told us although David liked tying himself up “it was never sexual.” She says he liked bondage but never choked himself. Then again, they divorced in 1997.

Last week, TheSmokingGun.com published legal documents from Carradine’s 4th wife, detailing David’s “potentially deadly” sex habits.

***

David Carradine’s hands were tied above his head when he died — turns out, in the world of auto-erotic suspension, it’s an easy task to master.

Brent Turvey, a forensic scientist and criminal profiler who has studied auto-erotic asphyxiation, has examined the photo of Carradine’s body published in a Thai newspaper. The photo shows the body with a rope around his neck hanging in a closet … Carradine’s hands were tied above his head.

Turvey says it’s simple for someone to tie rope around his/her hands, by loosely tying the hands in front — then raising them up to tighten.

Turvey says undoing the knot is easy as well, allowing for a quick escape.

Turvey says, “By tying his hands above his head, and bending his knees in a sitting position, he can easily stand up and untie his hands with his teeth. Choking in this position is an accident that usually results from the rope being left on the neck a few seconds too long.”

Since we first reported Friday that Carradine’s hands may have been tied, there has been a lot of speculation it’s evidence of foul play. But apparently it’s actually consistent with accidental death.

***

We’ve just seen a higher resolution image of the photo that appears to be David Carradine’s body hanging in his hotel room — and it shows what seems consistent with an auto-erotica scenario … at least from outward appearances.

The photo — published by a Thai tabloid — shows a body suspended from a bar in a closet, with his hands bound together above his head. Carradine’s genitals were also tied.

But the new sharper image also reveals what appears to be fishnet stockings covering the body. You can also see red women’s lingerie on the bed. And, it appears, Carradine may have been wearing a dark wig.

Although there are signs this could have been a sexual act that turned accidentally deadly, family sources say they are still suspicious of the circumstances and have not ruled out homicide.

Link.

* Finally, the picture in question is here.

The last one isn't as morbid as people would have you believe, though the strangeness of him being in a fish net body stocking and wearing a wig kind've leaves you with the feeling that you're actually looking at something else entirely, and I can only take it for certain that this is an image of it because of the other report.

Fascinating shit, though.

(crossposted)

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hani
Jun. 10th, 2009 05:13 am (UTC)
I've been following it, too. It's fascinating...
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 05:23 am (UTC)
it amazes me. you think, oh, okay, right, that's the end there. and then there's kung fu cults. and then there's carradine in a wig and fishnet stockings.
ashamel
Jun. 10th, 2009 05:29 am (UTC)
One hesitates to wonder what the inward appearances of an auto-erotica scenario are.
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:22 am (UTC)
something similar?
drjon
Jun. 10th, 2009 05:33 am (UTC)
The "Closet" photo does not appear to show Carradine's tattoos. Mind you, it's hard to tell. Even the least grainy reproduction of the shot I've seen is not very distinct, and the majority of shots and scans are moiréd badly.
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:22 am (UTC)
yeah, very much. i mean, if it turns out that it's not him, i won't be surprised at all.
maenad_au
Jun. 11th, 2009 04:29 am (UTC)
It looks fishy as hell to me.

Another point though is that it's Thailand. *nudge nudge, wink wink*
ataxi
Jun. 10th, 2009 05:52 am (UTC)
The secret society of kung fu artists thing has almost done enough to draw me back in, but I'm not sure I have the attention span.

I was naïve enough not to expect the sex-asphyxiation angle when the story first came out. To me a suicide by hanging is just that, on the face of it. But there it came anyway.
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:21 am (UTC)
yeah, i was going with the ordinary suicide myself when i first heard it. killing yourself in a hotel room in thailand had a certain morbid poetry to it.
shadowsandice
Jun. 10th, 2009 07:13 am (UTC)
I wasn't sure I wanted to see the photo.
But it wasn't as headstopping as all that.
The internet makes me suspicious of all pictures.
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:20 am (UTC)
yes, likewise. but it adds to the story, so...
mevennen
Jun. 10th, 2009 09:05 am (UTC)
A friend of my late partner's died in this way - almost exactly the same circumstances, from the sound of it. She found him hanging in the bedroom, in women's clothing. Hell of a shock for the poor woman as she hadn't known the guy was into any of this.
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:20 am (UTC)
now that's harsh. i dunno how you'd process that.
lucius_t
Jun. 10th, 2009 06:19 pm (UTC)
"For some reason, I have become fascinated by the Carradine death."

You're just a starfucker. :)
benpeek
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
that's entirely true ;)
lucius_t
Jun. 11th, 2009 12:15 am (UTC)
Well, be proud. Flaunt it! :)
benpeek
Jun. 11th, 2009 12:32 am (UTC)
perhaps a wig and a body stocking...
lucius_t
Jun. 11th, 2009 12:51 am (UTC)
don;t forget the red lingerie....
benpeek
Jun. 11th, 2009 01:18 am (UTC)
but of course not.
cassiphone
Jun. 11th, 2009 12:29 pm (UTC)
I read this just now and thought of you: http://copperbadge.livejournal.com/2784224.html
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