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Have you have noticed how a lot of American hip hop sounds like it's the soundtrack for pornography? Shake your ass, show me what you got! This one's for the boys and the girls on the streets: make sure you listen careful to the words I speak. Now I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke niggaz. I'll take you to the candy shop. I'll let you lick the lollipop. And so on and so forth.

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porphyre
Apr. 26th, 2007 12:19 am (UTC)
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
:)
ataxi
Apr. 26th, 2007 12:34 am (UTC)
I don't think anyone had noticed the degrading sexual themes in "a lot of" hiphop until you brought it up, actually.
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 12:37 am (UTC)
:P
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benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
you know you love it ;)

(i was going to try and reply to all my comments here in emoticons, but it just didn't work out.)
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benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
i always hear the lyrics in hip hop. dunno why--anything with guitars and drums, and the lyrics mainly pass me by. i just go on the way they sound there.
robinpen
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:01 am (UTC)
That's draws my attention to Alanis Morissette's piss-cover of Black Eyes Peas "My Humps":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:17 am (UTC)
man, both those versions irritate me.
robinpen
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:21 am (UTC)
Well, ditto. But I appreciate her point if not her music.
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:27 am (UTC)
yeah, alanis has never done it for me.
bodhichitta0
Apr. 27th, 2007 09:44 pm (UTC)
I am suspect of any man who says he likes her. I mean, it's truly a woman thing, IMO.
robinpen
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
Well she wouldn't for me either. And I begged. But when I said that Kevin Smith films are over-rated, that's it, she said forget it

I told her, "Oh yeah, well Tori Amos puts out more and Jewel gives better blow jobs anyway".

That almost made her change her mind, but she ran off crying instead.

It might have been because I was insensitive, but then Tori and Jewel were nodding in agreement.

Man, I love living in this alternative universe. Angry women with pianos just love me here.
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 01:50 am (UTC)
*rolls eyes*
underdogautopsy
Apr. 26th, 2007 03:45 am (UTC)
Rap music is good for the advancement of American culture. You aren't a man until you're grinnin' a grill with some ghetto booty backing itself up against your belt.

Footnote: There's a fairly strong difference these days between the lyrical content of hip hop and the lyrical content of rap. Those were once upon a time synonyms, but they are now two completey different genres. There's a fair amount of really good hip hop out there, pretty much all of which has little to no degrading lyrical content, whereas there's about, oh, 0.5% of good, catchy rap that doesn't make one feel either a) completely insulted or b) dumbed entirely down.
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 03:50 am (UTC)
no shit, there's a difference, huh? i was still thinking that rap had fallen into disuse after the excess of the eighties so it grabbed the rebranding term of hip hop. (which is a nicer term, at any rate.) guess i'd know this if i did my research or working in a record store :)
underdogautopsy
Apr. 26th, 2007 03:55 am (UTC)
Well, or it's entirely possible Americans are just deluding themselves by trying to create two different labels and there's really only good hip hop and bad hip hop, which is also entirely fair. There's just a part of me that hates to see hip hop degraded when I know there are artists like K-Os, Roots Manuva, Tribe Called Quest, Solillaquists of Sound, Dalek, and plenty others who make good, lyrically acceptable records.
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 04:01 am (UTC)
oh, yeah, no hassles on that. there is some fine lyrical stuff being done--i like some chunks of australian hip hop, for example, though there are chunks that shit me. but that sexualisation stuff is pretty big in the popular end of hip hop, or whatever you call it, and i just had this thought that if you put it as a sound track to a porn flick, it'd work quite nicely there.
ataxi
Apr. 26th, 2007 05:17 am (UTC)
I think that's more on the money. The usual distinctions made between "rap" and "hiphop" are (a) that rap is what genre outsiders call it, and (b) that "rap" refers to the vocal style whereas the term "hiphop" incorporates the related styles of vocal, beat-mixing, scratching, sampling, hooks etc.

It's quite possible that rap has come to have the alternate meaning "bad hiphop" just by virtue of being the term used pejoratively by the uninformed to label the whole genre of hiphop as unsavoury.
(Anonymous)
Apr. 26th, 2007 11:27 am (UTC)
I agree that the lyrics of lust and greed leave little if anything to the imagination.

---factory farmer
benpeek
Apr. 26th, 2007 12:41 pm (UTC)
nah, i got no problem with it. it doesn't really suit my tastes, that kind of hip hop, but i do think it makes a neat porno soundtrack.
lyndarama
Apr. 26th, 2007 02:57 pm (UTC)
'I'll take you to the candy shop. I'll let you lick the lollipop'

Yeah, but isn't there a special name for that kind of porn? Geez; is this shit aimed at adults or not?

It might make a good soundtrack for Porn for Dummies: for people so dumb they need pictures *and* an accompanying instructional soundtrack. Perhaps they could follow the bouncing ball? So to speak.
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